Chapter 13
Conviction No. 8
"According to Quran, History has
no Important Significance."
―History bears no authenticity. Quran is not a book of History. It is wrong to look at it in a historic perspective.
Please check a post from the forum:-
“Dear …………..,
You are right that “man written history should have no base to understand Quran.”
We can easily omit the history to interpret Quran .
such quotations are for those who have old interpretations engraved and can only be scratched and erased by nullifying their I from their
own teachings .
However if yoy think our grammatical approach is enough , we can always depend upon grammatical translations .
24.1.2011 Thanks for the comment. Dr. Qamar Zaman “
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Dear Readers, the learned translator's words (underlined in the above copy/paste) enjoy the status of a “very bold statement” on this important topic, as they are tantamount to a total denial of history's importance. The immaturity of thought process is evident from the fact that not the slightest notice is taken of the undeniable reality that the recognition of the Divine Messenger's existence as well as of the authenticity of Quran can be made through History alone. The Muslim Ummah does not possess any archeological remains, structural remnants, documentary evidence, or preserved record of the Divine Kingdom established by the Holy Messenger. So much so, that the sacred tomb is also verified by History alone. It is History alone that affords us the basis upon which we rest the compilation of an observation, article, thesis or a book about Islam. Rusool's Seerat (biography) is also History. All the tafaseer are History. The Arabic literature, lexicons, Hadith, Islamic Jurisprudence, all form part of the History. Please note the statement of a scholar of unquestionable prominence and diversified knowledge, Allama Pervaiz, about the importance of History, accompanied by a Quranic reference :-
“Study, observation and experience are the basic sources of acquiring knowledge. Quran lays great emphasis in employing these sources. The fundamental difference between man and animal lies in the fact that a human belonging to a generation or a time period owns the capability of transferring his experiences and observations to the next generation. This is called History. The secret of all progress achieved by humanity is encoded in it. The caravan of time traverses its evolutionary journey through its support alone. What is History? The outcome of centuries of human endeavor! The essence of thousands of years of perpetual struggle! The savings of hundreds of generations and races of nations and civilizations! A flowing torrent of the efforts of man's head and heart which, at its fountain-head, was not more than a pool of scanty water, but as it flowed ahead it continued getting boundless. This is the reason why Quran greatly emphasizes the study of History. It says : “WA LAQAD ANZALNA ILAYI-KUM AAYAATUN BAYYINAATUN WA MATHALAN MIN-AL-LAZEENA KHALAW MIN QABLI- KUM WA MOW‟IZATUN LIL-MUTTAQEEN” (Verse 24/33) - (We have sent to you our clear signs/laws and with those the examples of those who lived before you, wherein there is admonition for those who wish to safeguard themselves from dangers).”
And now please go through an answer by the learned translator on his forum wherefrom an accurate judgment can be made about the parameters of his competence in History. After reading this question and answer, you will agree with his limitations in the field of History which, inevitably, necessitated a compulsion on his part to negate this branch of knowledge altogether. Please do inform me about your opinions. First the question put before him :-
"Dr Sahab And Mambers
Is it possible that wahi reveals on some nabi other then Quran in these days at any nation. "
And now the “brilliant” answer by the learned translator :-
"If someone comes to the standard of ar- Rasool as described in detail in Quran and The Creator choses him then why not . The population in days of Prophet Mohammad was not more then few thousands in middle east .For few thousands of people in Middle East at any time in the past it is said that more than hundred thousands of prophet came The population now is in millions .
We are bankrupt morally and ethically, . We have no morals and no values to follow , We don‘t see any role model to follow. To add further upon it no messenger ….......what a pity .
The leaders wether religious or social are characterless .
Do you think today with all this femine stricken calamity there can be no person to guide us .?
This is no justice to stop coming of prophets when it is needed
most ….....!"
Dear Readers, the above reply by him is probably a brilliant show of “the apex of knowledge”; rather “the wonder of all academic discoveries and achievements”. Any amount of “appreciation” may remain insufficient. But look at the next reply by someone else which is copied for your kind perusal. After this, this humble writer won't need to write anything more. Kindly read carefully :-
COMMENT BY MR. BHATTI:
Peace—aastana-members;
My 1st writing in 4 months, may be the last. I like to remain a reader. BUT;
Doctor Qamar‘s comments in this thread are disappointing, just as was Moazzam‘s ―blank check in favor of Doctor‘s false statement. I mean, what rubbish it is that the guy agreed wid the Doctor without hesitation and unconditionally, just upon the hollow authority of his own words! I am sorry to say that the two look pretty screwed up here! See for example:- DOCTOR QAMAR;
―The population in days of Prophet Mohammad was not more then few thousands in middle east.
BHATTI:
―FEW THOUSANDS? Never saw a more bombastic corruption of history! …..And…. This 'figure of population‘ covered the whole ―middle east too! Not only Arabia!
Please refer us to that history that tells you this eye opening fact? Will you?
Sir, you compel me ….admire your ―scholarly research.
**But…the bloody crooked shit history (check any book of Muslim history) told that Prophet Mohammad in 630 AD(9 ah) led the Army for Ghazwah Tabuk to fight Romans and it was a 30,000 strong army!
(it mean the whole ―middle east was in that army of Prophet….? Because the whole middle east was a ―few thousand, acc. To Dr. Qamar !)
**The bloody crooked history also tells:, hundred thousands educated Jews had settled into width & breadth of Arabia from
Iraq ( during reign of Hormazd IV circa. 579-90 AD) ----- remember date of prophet‘s birth: 570 AD. How come only migrant group of Jews were in lakhs while the total population of 'middle east‘ was ―a few thousand? That huge ―army of Jews could easily capture the whole middle east?
**The shit history also tell: from 610-629 Iran and Rome kept fighting wars with troops often in lakhs of numbers every
time! From where came these big armies in middle east? … you say, the whole mid east had a population of ―a few thousand?
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DOCTOR QAMAR:
―If someone comes to the standard of ar- Rasool as described in detail in Quran and The Creator choses him then why not . ―
BHATTI:
Opinion…. Conjecture…speculation…..superstition….what is it sir?
Quran don‘t say more rasools will come or not come,,,,so how come you give a ruling on this point? It‘s just preposterous! I feel....flabbergasted ,,really! That guy above is right with proper references showing that Quran talks abt rasools in PAST always.
And ―the Creator choses him ? HAS THE CREATOR ―STARTED CHOOSING AGAIN NOW? Your statement is on record sir IMPLYING that no Creator choses anyone or sends WAHI to any one, it is only that ―NATURE REVEALS ITSELF TO HIM (to someone who gains higher knowledge and intellect!). Is it a U- turn? Or you at aastana are just playing with Quran as a chattering tool? Such blatant contradictions?
DOCTOR QAMAR:
―The leaders wether religious or social are characterless .
Do you think today with all this femine stricken calamity there can be no person to guide us .?
This is no justice to stop coming of prophets when it is needed most ........!
BHATTI:
You mean de leaders don't guide - - - only prophets guide?
Then who is guiding all those developed rich …welfare…white
nations ? leaders or prophets?
While the rest of the world is flourishing with guidance of their
“leaders”, you are special ones who will progress only through prophets? Why? What a joke!
It sounds weird of you sir to ask for prophets, not reformers or sincere leaders? You go to extremes sir and introduce far fetched "rulings‟. You indulge in sophistry sir. You work on some secret agenda,,,,,,, obviously sir…. Are you the new coming Prophet sir?
DOCTOR QAMAR;
“past it is said that more than hundred thousands of prophet came”
BHATTI
Who said so sir?
If Quran?........ Where? ….. If not, ,,,why you quote a non- quranic nonsense sir?
If you take it from history, I gather you are a hypocrite sir.
You reject, negate, condemn history in your writings! Why do you now adopt myths from history and u argue on mythology quotes ?
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Please don't mind my comments. I don't have time for writing, but the lowest standard of intellect or knowledge you displayed made me feel like rejecting this highly dodgy crap!!!!!!!!! sorry, but it looks like you have a mission to keep creating scams in Quran teaching.
And you take help from history and myth too, which is in contrast of your clear stand, and that of your followers.
(END OF MR. BHATTI'S COMMENT)
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For the information of Readers, the above-copied, detailed and self-sufficient analysis was deleted the moment it was posted on the forum, perhaps because it exposed the secrets of aastana and its head's academic standard and prowess. Nevertheless, this kind of constant aggressive steps had already exposed the true picture of this institution's honesty and credibility to a large extent. It is a commonplace and regrettable observation that the majority of non- believers in the accountability of the Hereafter are usually rendered void of spiritual values and ethical standards. It is the specialty of materialism and an inevitable result of the philosophy of atheism.
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